Monday, 8 July 2013

Leica customer service: a personal experience

A fellow London birder was asking for people’s experiences with Leica customer service earlier today, and this struck a chord with me. I had ‘an experience’ along these lines earlier in the year, and have been meaning to write it up objectively and share for quite some time. Seems to be an opportune moment – so here goes.

[To be clear: this is simply what it says on the tin, my only personal experience of Leica customer service. I’m sure other customers have other experiences, some better, some similar, some worse. Rather than report what I’ve heard of those, and attempt to draw conclusions, this is just a factual account of what I encountered.]

I’ve had a pair of Leica Ultravid 7x42 BRs for a couple of years, bought privately second-hand in 2011. Their previous owner bought them new in early 2006 – so they’re about 7 years old, not really that much for a top-end product with a 30 year warranty. Back in January, I’d got sufficiently annoyed with the rubber armouring ‘bubbling’ away from the body on both barrels that I decided to investigate getting it sorted out. It appeared that either the rubber had stretched away from the body, or that the adhesive used to attach it was failing.

I took the bins into Leica’s flagship shop in Mayfair on 8th January and described the problem, where a friendly white-coated technician agreed that this shouldn’t happen, and that they should be sent off to Germany for a repair, free of charge, under warranty. I doubled-checked this at the time, to be absolutely clear, and there was no shadow of doubt: warranty repair; free. I was also asked whether there was anything else that needed doing, so I mentioned a cosmetic scratch on one of the objectives, no doubt caused accidentally – and made clear that I had no expectation of this being dealt with under warranty, but of course if it were to be sorted, that would be great.

I asked when I should expect the bins to be back in London, and was told “about a month – we’ll contact you”. So far, so good. OK, so you could argue that a month is not a spectacularly quick turnaround, but by the time you’ve factored in transit to and from Germany, and a bit of admin, it’s not that unreasonable either (especially in a quiet time of year for birding!)

But after three and a half weeks, on 1st February, I’d not heard anything, so thought I’d give Leica Mayfair a ring, and find out how things were going. Should be nearly done, right? Not exactly…

After my details had been looked up, I was told that my account had an outstanding estimate of c. £260 + VAT on it, needing my approval to proceed. The estimate covered the rubber armouring, a new objective (which I hadn’t asked for), and labour. This prompted two obvious questions:

  1. why is there an estimate on the account, for work that I was unequivocally told would be free of charge, for a fault with the product?
  2. and why am I only being told about it at the point when I’ve chased the matter up? Why has no-one contacted me?

It transpired that the technician who I’d originally dealt with had been involved in an email chain with the factory in Germany, since they were not willing to do the work for free, but he thought that they should. I was also told that the small print in the warranty terms excludes the rubber armouring, and therefore it wasn’t covered. I replied that this missed the point: I had been given a commitment, and I expected it to be kept. If someone at Leica has made a mistake, then it’s theirs to rectify, not mine to bear the cost. They agreed to raise the matter again with Germany.

I also made reference to the Leica “Sports Optics Goodwill Service”, advertised in some of their brochures. I quote: “To enable us to offer you maximum security and reliability, we have now introduced a new goodwill arrangement […]. Above and beyond our statutory warranty obligations, we will repair almost all our Sports Optics products worldwide on a goodwill basis.” So, I suggested, here was an opportunity to extend some goodwill, and do the right thing by sticking to your promise.

By 7th February, and a few more emails with Leica Mayfair (which were efficient and helpful, to be fair), we’d heard back from their colleagues in Germany. They remained unwilling to proceed, even under the (unclear) terms of the Goodwill service, and left me with options to either pay for the repair, or have the binoculars sent back. Leica Germany also stated that the rubber armour bubbling was “due to excess hand sweat”. This basically made me laugh out loud…

While thanking the technician in Mayfair for their assistance and persistence in fighting my corner, I escalated the issue directly to Leica’s UK Customer Service Manager, explaining the situation, and what I expected to happen. She pointed out once again that the armouring repair was not strictly covered by the terms of the warranty… and I pointed out once again that they were missing the point. I quote from an email I sent, which wraps up the key points:

“The primary issue was the armouring. Consequently when I chased up the status of the repair, and the first thing I heard was that there was a moderately large estimate outstanding, this was a(n unpleasant) surprise.

I’ll also repeat that I think attributing the armour bubbling to ‘excess hand sweat’ is pretty laughable – and whether or not Leica believe it to be true, presenting it to the customer simply looks like a weak excuse, a cop-out. The binoculars do not get heavy use, only very infrequently in warm conditions, and I have no reason to believe I sweat more than any other customer! And if Leica really do believe that this is the root cause of the problem, then I would have pretty significant concerns over how well the product would stand up to constant use by professional ornithologists, and/or in a humid climate – it doesn’t exactly inspire confidence.

Finally, my expectation that the repair would be free of charge is not only because I was told explicitly that would be the case, though of course that’s the major contributing factor. It’s also because I don’t think a top-end product retailing new around £1000 should start to come apart in this way, particularly under the level of use I describe above. I think it’s a fault, and I would have made that point if I’d been told the work would be chargeable. But maybe I’m wrong: is it typical that most Ultravids would need re-armouring after 6 or 7 years (and sooner under intensive use), and that the customer should pay for it every time? I, and I’m sure lots of other people, would be very interested to know if that’s the case.”

Needless to say, I didn’t get an answer to the question of whether all other Ultravid owners should expect the same level of quality from their binoculars, or whether Leica recognised my opinion that they have a serious problem with their customer service image when compared to their competitors – but at least, once again, the matter was taken away to be pursued further.

On 15th February, after a further delay (due in part to staff illness), Leica finally offered in writing to do what they’d said they would do over five weeks earlier – simply repair the rubber armouring on my binoculars “as a gesture of goodwill”. They apologised that my experience of their customer service had been poor, but continued to feel the need to reiterate that “repairs to armouring of Ultravid binoculars are not covered by the manufacturer warranty”.

Around a week later, I got a phone call to advise that my Ultravids were back in Mayfair, repaired.  And more! It was immediately apparent that additional work had been carried out, above and beyond the problem armouring. The diopter adjuster on the top of the focus wheel had been replaced, to address a small crack in the plastic. And the objective lens which had been scratched was replaced. This was obviously good news, and I’m grateful to whoever made the decision to do this extra work.What’s more, a few months down the line, I have to say I still think the binoculars are a class act, a really nice bit of kit that I enjoy using.

But now I have a a dilemma: should I keep them? What happens if I need to have them repaired again? Do I really trust Leica not to mess me about again? I’m far from convinced, and I really don’t think I’ll ever buy another of their products.

Based on this experience, it felt as though I was witness to two very different ways of thinking within the Leica organisation, between the UK and Germany. On the one hand, maybe there are technicians and optics specialists, who believe that their products should be absolutely top drawer, should be maintained to that level of quality, shouldn’t suffer defects like the one I experienced, and repair products back to a mint condition, fixing more problems than strictly required. And then maybe there are the people who control the work that the first group of people do – worrying excessively over small print, rather than customer expectations, and simple core values like ‘delivering what you promise’. Maybe I’m wrong – but that’s how it looked.

In summary: I have no real problem with the fact that the rubber armouring on my bins was faulty, and needed replacing. However, I do have a problem with the facts that I had to chase Leica up for any kind of communication on the issue in the first place; that Leica tried repeatedly to back out of a promise they’d made, due to a mistake on their part; and that I had to spend a considerable amount of my time pursuing the matter, and ultimately escalating it to get a satisfactory outcome. For a manufacturer of high-quality, top-end products, this is just not good enough.


Devil Birder said...

Thanks, David, for giving such an insight into your experience with Leica. It looks like I'll probably have to deal with them directly, too, so I hope my repair is slightly less torturous in terms of customer service than yours!

The problem with my binoculars (Ultravids, 10x42) is that the nitrogen gas has leaked and now, whenever the temperature rises, serious condensation forms for some time on the inside of the objective lenses. The left barrel is particularly bad and also has permanent water marks evenly scattered inside the eyepiece, making the image consistently a touch cloudy through the left eye. I've put up with it for a while but have decided to stop procrastinating and get it sorted out in time for the autumn.

Also, I hadn't really thought about it but the rubber is loose from the body on my pair, though this doesn't particularly bother me and I've always thought it's just how they are (not sure if they were like this when I got them second hand just over two years ago from Cley Spy).



Ash said...

Thanks for posting guys I'm having a nightmare with Leica over my Apo 77 Telescope a small screw had come unscrewed Leica UK rep told me its happens from time to time but don't worry it's all covered on Warrenty. After no word from Leica in a Month I rang to see what was happening then came the part where I wish I was sat down there's a quote at the shop for £770 for putting in a SCREW. The story from the shop is this is a regular occurrence as far as Leica goes